Post by Peter on Mar 11, 2024 10:53:39 GMT
Tracing King Arthur I, son of Mascen
“That even my buried ashes - such a snare of perfume shall fling up into the air, as not one true believer passing by but shall be overtaken unaware." The RUBAIYAT Omar Khayyam.
The Brecon Manuscripts. British Museum Vespasian A. XIV – Harleian 4181. Unravelling the modern confusions surrounding “King Arthur" inevitably leads to disentangling the confusions surrounding the Prince Brychan, a first cousin of King Arthur II ap Meurig. This is a more than valuable exercise, for “Brychan" has caused more confusions than “King Arthur". Basically. there are three Princes who were named Brychan, and instead of one Brychan with three wives and a vast horde of children who contracted a series of impossible genealogical marriages, we find three Brychans, each with a wife and children.
That there were more than one Brychan is obvious as at least two graves are cited: One in the Calf of Man, a small island just south of Man, and one in Mynav.
What we find is:
1. Brychan (Frachan) brother of Conan Meriadauc the first King of Britanny following the conquest in 383AD. He was buried in Britanny.
2. Brychan, son of Queen Marchell and Enllech Coronog and grandson of King Tewdrig, born around 480-490AD
3. Brychan, a grandson of Llywarch Hen, probably born around 560-580AD.
The three wives are:-
Poettril a Visigoth "Spanish" princess, who undoubtably would have married Brychan of Britanny around 383AD.
Eurbrawst a daughter of KiKing Meurig ap Tewdrig, who would have married her first cousin, Brychan son of Queen Marchell; and Rybrawst 1, who would have married Brychan ap Cyngenap Llywarch Hen.
This sorts out the incredible mess of marriages of the children of “Brychan" spread from 400 to 600AD.
The real value of the records of Brychan Brecheiniog, son of Queen Marchell, have never quite been appreciated, although they have been much quoted by many who have never even read them. The immediate ancestry of Brychan is given three times in these records:-
1) in De·Situ Brecheniauc, 2) in Cognacio Brychan, and 3) in Ach Kynauc Sant.
1. Entry; in De-Situ Brecheniauc - translated.
“Here is the genealogy, of Saint Kynauc, son of Brychan. Brychan son of Marchell, Marchell daughter of Tewdrig, Tewdrig son of Teithfallt, Teithfallt son of Tewdur, Tewdur son of Teudfal, Teudfal son of Annhun (Arthur I) King of Greece!”
This fits with the History of Arthur I, son of Magnus Maximus, moving across into Greece and the Balkans after his conquest of Western Europe in 383- 388AD. It also matches the tale in the Mabinogi of 24 donkeys laden with treasure, bringing the tribute to King Arthur from Greece after the Battle of Baedan (see The Dream of Rhonabwy).
2. Entry in Cognacio Brychan – translated.
“Here is the genealogy; Kynaucus son of Brychan, son of Anlachson of Gornuc, son of Eurbre of Hibernia, and so on, on the side of his father.
On the side of his mother: - Brychan son of Marchell, daughter of Tewdrig, son of Teithfallt (Teudric filli Teithphal), son of Teithrin, son of Tathal, son of Annun nigri, King of Greece. (Annun the Black- Arthur I)."
3. Entry in Ach Kynauc Sant translated.
“Behold the discourse enclosing the stem of Saint Kynawc.
Kynawc son of Brychan (son of Anlach), son of Chormuc son of Eurbre of the woods of Ireland (Gwydel o Iwe(r)don).
His mother was Marchell, daughter of Tewdric, son of Teidfallt, son of Teidtheyrn, son of Thathal son of Annwn Ddu (the Black) King of Greece."
These genealogies give a clear line of descent, which, allied to the many times recorded descent of King Teithfallt, then King Tewdrig, then King Meurig,and then King Arthur II.
It becomes very difficult to see what the problem has been in identifying the Arthurian Dynasty. The De Situ Brecheniauc relates how Tewdrig then the regional King - probably under King Teithfallt - sent his daughter away to Ireland to preserve the bloodline when the Saxon war raged after the infamous massacre. This would be a cautionary action in case all the males were killed in the fighting.
Khumric pedigrees list descendants of Hwdn Dwn, descendants of Cuneda, as ruling lands in Ireland, so it would not be a Welsh-Irish marriage.
All the sons and daughters of Brychan became Saints and thus they were removed from the inheritance of the Brecon area, which was granted to Brychan during his lifetime. The Brecon area reverted to Morgan, nephew and successor, to Arthur II.
These Manuscripts are around 1000 years old, and there is the perennial problem of dating them. The double standards applied to Khumric History are the problem, and the practice of dating by orthographic comparison is another obstacle. Are we really expected to believe that styles of writing changed simultaneously all across Britain and Europe, so that everyone wrote in the same styles? Did some scholar stand on a mountain top and shout -"All change!" We are always told that younger Monks were taught to read and write by copying out exact replicas of the older decaying Manuscripts, and styles of writing are much more likely to be local to and peculiar to individual Monastery groups. Either way here we have the Arthur mystery fully exposed. The West Midlands area of England has a strange folk hero story, which concerns a bold warrior known as Guy of Warwickshire. Guy is worthy of examination, as he emerges from the mists of time as Arthur I, son of Mascen.
It works like this:-Guy of Warwickshire would be Gwyr or Gwr of Caerwythelyn, or Gwyr-thelyn, which may be construed as The Man of the Military Retinue" This may indicate Arthur I. Blackett and Wilson made this identification, of Arthur I being the folk hero Guy of Warwick, by simply comparing the real-life story of Arthur I and his campaigns with the hero story of Guy of Warwick. When in 1990 they were looking through the Itinerary of Edward Llwyd -the "learned Ilwyd" of the time of Queen Eizabeth I - they found, on the same pages as the notes on the Lords of Coed y Mwstyr, an entry where Edward Llwyd states definitively that Arthur and Guy of Warwick were one and the same person. That this statement published around 1600AD, should never have been noticed by the legions of would-be Arthurian researchers is puzzling.
Guy of Warwick, in his story, does all the things which Arthur I did, right down to making war in Europe and fighting against the Emperor of Constantinople. The comparisons are clear, and this parallel again links King Arthur I to the West Midlands area, and to the original Glastonbury of Joseph of Arimathea near Lichfield. With this, not to be underestimated traditional story, the circle of evidence which places Arthur I in the West Midlands, the central area of Britain, and close to the capital at Virconium, is closed.
Glastonbury is in the Midlands and existed for over nine hundred years before Glastonbury Abbey was founded in Somerset over 200 miles to the South West. St Collen visited Glastonbury, and Llangollen (the church of St. Collen) is just across the border, not far West of Lichfield, and nowhere near Somerset. St Gildas visited Glastonbury and his father Caw Cawllwyd had his lands in Anglesey and North Wales, again close to Lichfield and remote from Somerset. St David visited Glastonbury from his Abbey of Llanthony in North Gwent, again much closer to Lichfield. St Patrick, son of Mawan, born at Tair Onen - Three Ash Trees, just 1½ miles from Cowbridge in Glamorgan, visited Glastonbury, again close to lands owned by his ancestors on his father's side in Powys, right alongside Lichfield and nowhere near Somerset. That the Khumry knew Warwickshire as Caer-Wythelyn is curious, as the Poems on the "Awyntyrs of Arthur” tell of Tarn -Terne-Wathelan (also spelled Turne Wathelan) It is not impossible that Turn is ancestral to Turn-pike and Wathelan is Wythelyn. The grave of Arthur I exists at Atherston -Arthur's Twyn (grave), as we will see with the Identification of Guy Of Warwick as King Arthur I, son of Magnus and ancestor of King Arthur II. There is in Warwickshire in Central England a strange legend of Guy of Warwick, a hero figure whose name Guy seems to mean the Khumric Gwyr-Man, and Gwrtheylin for Warwick is – “Man of the Military Retinue." Edward Lluyd known as the “learned Lluyd "of the reign of Elizabeth I, saw the parallels between the legendary career of Guy of Warwick and the real life career of Arthur, the Black son of Macsen Maximus. This was noticed by Wilson and Blackett in 1991 when they were looking through the itinerary of Edward Lluyd written around 1600, and examining the page referring to the Lords of Coed y Mwstyr. They had themselves made the same identification several years earlier. What is extraordinary is that none of the legions of authors scribbling away on the authenticity or otherwise of King Arthur, ever noticed this identification. Unless of course they were playing the "follow-my-leader" game,” and endlessly quoting each other’s works. Both Guy and Arthur I are traceable to Warwick, and both leave Britain to fight two major battles in France. In 383AD, Arthur I led his father's armies to seize Paris and the Lady St Genevieve, he then fought the Roman armies and won the accustomed British victory over the Romans at Soissons. Having totally destroyed the Roman army, Arthur l then pursued the Emperor Gratian down to Lyons where he cornered and killed him. This matches Guy's exploit of winning two battles and killing 12,000 men at Louvain. Just as Arthur I went down through Italy before crossing into Greece and the Balkans to fight two massive battles against the Constantinople Emperor Theodosius at Poetovio and Sisica on the Sica River, so also Guy is supposed to have gone as far as Turkey - therefore Constantinople - ostensibly to fight the Saracens. Both Arthur I and Guy are said to have fought enemies in Britain, Guy defeating a Danish champion named Colbrand, who seems to be the Angle Colegrin defeated by King Arthur II. Amongst his many feats Guy is accredited with killing a monster Boar, befriending a Lion, then killing a Dragon in Northumberland, and slaying a monstrous Wild Dun Cow at Dunsmore-on-Stretton. All these adventures seem to mirror Tales from the Arthurian Stories of the Mabinogi. The war against the giant Boar named Twrch Trwyth - "the lying pig"- is a central theme of the Culhwch and Olwen Story in the war against the King of the Vandal Mercians -"the lying pig." The friendly Lion threatened by a Dragon is familiar to all Arthurian Romance enthusiasts, and befriends "Sir Owain - Gawaine" in his tale, and all Guy's legendary exploits are similarly traced. Whereas Arthur I is untraceable in conventional history after his battle with Theodosius the Great at Sisica in 388AD, as Guy he is said to have gone to the Holy Land on a pilgrimage. He is then said to have resided quietly in retirement at Guy's Cliffe, to the north of the River Avon in Warwickshire. That Arthur I lived out his days in Britain seems certain and corrupt Roman accounts of suicide can be discounted because Magnus Maximus and his whole family were devout Christians. King List No. 4. from the Harleian MSS 3859.
The Black Book of Carmarthen.
These King Lists were prepared for the wedding of the Prince Owen son of Howell Dda and were therefore compiled around 920AD. Magnus Maximus -Maxim Gulc - CONSTANTINE FAMILY TREE
This is as far as we need to go at this time, and tying in the detailed relationships is no problem in this well recoded royal Dynasty. The reason for Arthur II's claim to Imperial status is easy to understand.
Glastennen in Welsh is "the scarlet oak" and Glastenic is Glastonbury in the Lichfield and Atherston, Arthur's Twyn = Burial Mound area - and near Viroconium (Wroxeter). These are the records concerning the Land Grants made by King Ina who ruled and lived in this same West Midlands area, where he gave substantial territories to Glastenic-Glastonbury around 700AD - some 250 years before the Somerset Glastonbury Abbey was even founded. The Abbey of Glastonbury in Somerset was not founded until 942AD by King Edgar as his mortuary chapel with only 12 monks sworn to poverty. The roof burned down in 1184AD leaving the Monks even more destitute, and so the fake "discovery" of King Arthur in 1191AD, was somewhat fortuitous and necessary. Edgars Abbey Chapel was rediscovered in 1920 by William Bligh Bount, and proved to be a small building, and not a great very ancient Abbey. This discovery led to the dismissal of W. Bligh Bount from his position in charge of the Glastonbury, Somerset ruins. Everything points to the urban area around Viroconium and to the definite identification of this West Midlands area as the location of the famous Glastonbury of Joseph of Arimathea. This is where Joseph journeyed up from his original base in Glamorgan first to Brecon, and then to what is now Warwickshire, where the King Gweirydd -"George"- known as Aviragus to the Romans, gave him land. In return Joseph of Arimathea is traditionally believed to have given Gweirydd a white flag with a red cross upon it. Blackett and Wilson's purpose in resurrecting King Arthur I, son of Magnus and King Arthur II is to trace the ancient British Alphabet over to America in the voyages of 562-573 and 574AD and the proving voyage of the Admiral Gwananon sent by Arthur II, son of Meurig to trace the accidental voyage of Madoc Morfran, son of Meurig, and the subsequent expedition of Arthur II and Madoc, with their brother-in-law Amwn Ddu, son of Einyr Lydaw. This was written by Alan Wlison and Baram Blackett and I posted it for all the new members, especially our Americans. I will post a continuation of King Arthur I, the Black son of Magnus Maximus if anyone wants more information as written by Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett
“That even my buried ashes - such a snare of perfume shall fling up into the air, as not one true believer passing by but shall be overtaken unaware." The RUBAIYAT Omar Khayyam.
The Brecon Manuscripts. British Museum Vespasian A. XIV – Harleian 4181. Unravelling the modern confusions surrounding “King Arthur" inevitably leads to disentangling the confusions surrounding the Prince Brychan, a first cousin of King Arthur II ap Meurig. This is a more than valuable exercise, for “Brychan" has caused more confusions than “King Arthur". Basically. there are three Princes who were named Brychan, and instead of one Brychan with three wives and a vast horde of children who contracted a series of impossible genealogical marriages, we find three Brychans, each with a wife and children.
That there were more than one Brychan is obvious as at least two graves are cited: One in the Calf of Man, a small island just south of Man, and one in Mynav.
What we find is:
1. Brychan (Frachan) brother of Conan Meriadauc the first King of Britanny following the conquest in 383AD. He was buried in Britanny.
2. Brychan, son of Queen Marchell and Enllech Coronog and grandson of King Tewdrig, born around 480-490AD
3. Brychan, a grandson of Llywarch Hen, probably born around 560-580AD.
The three wives are:-
Poettril a Visigoth "Spanish" princess, who undoubtably would have married Brychan of Britanny around 383AD.
Eurbrawst a daughter of KiKing Meurig ap Tewdrig, who would have married her first cousin, Brychan son of Queen Marchell; and Rybrawst 1, who would have married Brychan ap Cyngenap Llywarch Hen.
This sorts out the incredible mess of marriages of the children of “Brychan" spread from 400 to 600AD.
The real value of the records of Brychan Brecheiniog, son of Queen Marchell, have never quite been appreciated, although they have been much quoted by many who have never even read them. The immediate ancestry of Brychan is given three times in these records:-
1) in De·Situ Brecheniauc, 2) in Cognacio Brychan, and 3) in Ach Kynauc Sant.
1. Entry; in De-Situ Brecheniauc - translated.
“Here is the genealogy, of Saint Kynauc, son of Brychan. Brychan son of Marchell, Marchell daughter of Tewdrig, Tewdrig son of Teithfallt, Teithfallt son of Tewdur, Tewdur son of Teudfal, Teudfal son of Annhun (Arthur I) King of Greece!”
This fits with the History of Arthur I, son of Magnus Maximus, moving across into Greece and the Balkans after his conquest of Western Europe in 383- 388AD. It also matches the tale in the Mabinogi of 24 donkeys laden with treasure, bringing the tribute to King Arthur from Greece after the Battle of Baedan (see The Dream of Rhonabwy).
2. Entry in Cognacio Brychan – translated.
“Here is the genealogy; Kynaucus son of Brychan, son of Anlachson of Gornuc, son of Eurbre of Hibernia, and so on, on the side of his father.
On the side of his mother: - Brychan son of Marchell, daughter of Tewdrig, son of Teithfallt (Teudric filli Teithphal), son of Teithrin, son of Tathal, son of Annun nigri, King of Greece. (Annun the Black- Arthur I)."
3. Entry in Ach Kynauc Sant translated.
“Behold the discourse enclosing the stem of Saint Kynawc.
Kynawc son of Brychan (son of Anlach), son of Chormuc son of Eurbre of the woods of Ireland (Gwydel o Iwe(r)don).
His mother was Marchell, daughter of Tewdric, son of Teidfallt, son of Teidtheyrn, son of Thathal son of Annwn Ddu (the Black) King of Greece."
These genealogies give a clear line of descent, which, allied to the many times recorded descent of King Teithfallt, then King Tewdrig, then King Meurig,and then King Arthur II.
It becomes very difficult to see what the problem has been in identifying the Arthurian Dynasty. The De Situ Brecheniauc relates how Tewdrig then the regional King - probably under King Teithfallt - sent his daughter away to Ireland to preserve the bloodline when the Saxon war raged after the infamous massacre. This would be a cautionary action in case all the males were killed in the fighting.
Khumric pedigrees list descendants of Hwdn Dwn, descendants of Cuneda, as ruling lands in Ireland, so it would not be a Welsh-Irish marriage.
All the sons and daughters of Brychan became Saints and thus they were removed from the inheritance of the Brecon area, which was granted to Brychan during his lifetime. The Brecon area reverted to Morgan, nephew and successor, to Arthur II.
These Manuscripts are around 1000 years old, and there is the perennial problem of dating them. The double standards applied to Khumric History are the problem, and the practice of dating by orthographic comparison is another obstacle. Are we really expected to believe that styles of writing changed simultaneously all across Britain and Europe, so that everyone wrote in the same styles? Did some scholar stand on a mountain top and shout -"All change!" We are always told that younger Monks were taught to read and write by copying out exact replicas of the older decaying Manuscripts, and styles of writing are much more likely to be local to and peculiar to individual Monastery groups. Either way here we have the Arthur mystery fully exposed. The West Midlands area of England has a strange folk hero story, which concerns a bold warrior known as Guy of Warwickshire. Guy is worthy of examination, as he emerges from the mists of time as Arthur I, son of Mascen.
It works like this:-Guy of Warwickshire would be Gwyr or Gwr of Caerwythelyn, or Gwyr-thelyn, which may be construed as The Man of the Military Retinue" This may indicate Arthur I. Blackett and Wilson made this identification, of Arthur I being the folk hero Guy of Warwick, by simply comparing the real-life story of Arthur I and his campaigns with the hero story of Guy of Warwick. When in 1990 they were looking through the Itinerary of Edward Llwyd -the "learned Ilwyd" of the time of Queen Eizabeth I - they found, on the same pages as the notes on the Lords of Coed y Mwstyr, an entry where Edward Llwyd states definitively that Arthur and Guy of Warwick were one and the same person. That this statement published around 1600AD, should never have been noticed by the legions of would-be Arthurian researchers is puzzling.
Guy of Warwick, in his story, does all the things which Arthur I did, right down to making war in Europe and fighting against the Emperor of Constantinople. The comparisons are clear, and this parallel again links King Arthur I to the West Midlands area, and to the original Glastonbury of Joseph of Arimathea near Lichfield. With this, not to be underestimated traditional story, the circle of evidence which places Arthur I in the West Midlands, the central area of Britain, and close to the capital at Virconium, is closed.
Glastonbury is in the Midlands and existed for over nine hundred years before Glastonbury Abbey was founded in Somerset over 200 miles to the South West. St Collen visited Glastonbury, and Llangollen (the church of St. Collen) is just across the border, not far West of Lichfield, and nowhere near Somerset. St Gildas visited Glastonbury and his father Caw Cawllwyd had his lands in Anglesey and North Wales, again close to Lichfield and remote from Somerset. St David visited Glastonbury from his Abbey of Llanthony in North Gwent, again much closer to Lichfield. St Patrick, son of Mawan, born at Tair Onen - Three Ash Trees, just 1½ miles from Cowbridge in Glamorgan, visited Glastonbury, again close to lands owned by his ancestors on his father's side in Powys, right alongside Lichfield and nowhere near Somerset. That the Khumry knew Warwickshire as Caer-Wythelyn is curious, as the Poems on the "Awyntyrs of Arthur” tell of Tarn -Terne-Wathelan (also spelled Turne Wathelan) It is not impossible that Turn is ancestral to Turn-pike and Wathelan is Wythelyn. The grave of Arthur I exists at Atherston -Arthur's Twyn (grave), as we will see with the Identification of Guy Of Warwick as King Arthur I, son of Magnus and ancestor of King Arthur II. There is in Warwickshire in Central England a strange legend of Guy of Warwick, a hero figure whose name Guy seems to mean the Khumric Gwyr-Man, and Gwrtheylin for Warwick is – “Man of the Military Retinue." Edward Lluyd known as the “learned Lluyd "of the reign of Elizabeth I, saw the parallels between the legendary career of Guy of Warwick and the real life career of Arthur, the Black son of Macsen Maximus. This was noticed by Wilson and Blackett in 1991 when they were looking through the itinerary of Edward Lluyd written around 1600, and examining the page referring to the Lords of Coed y Mwstyr. They had themselves made the same identification several years earlier. What is extraordinary is that none of the legions of authors scribbling away on the authenticity or otherwise of King Arthur, ever noticed this identification. Unless of course they were playing the "follow-my-leader" game,” and endlessly quoting each other’s works. Both Guy and Arthur I are traceable to Warwick, and both leave Britain to fight two major battles in France. In 383AD, Arthur I led his father's armies to seize Paris and the Lady St Genevieve, he then fought the Roman armies and won the accustomed British victory over the Romans at Soissons. Having totally destroyed the Roman army, Arthur l then pursued the Emperor Gratian down to Lyons where he cornered and killed him. This matches Guy's exploit of winning two battles and killing 12,000 men at Louvain. Just as Arthur I went down through Italy before crossing into Greece and the Balkans to fight two massive battles against the Constantinople Emperor Theodosius at Poetovio and Sisica on the Sica River, so also Guy is supposed to have gone as far as Turkey - therefore Constantinople - ostensibly to fight the Saracens. Both Arthur I and Guy are said to have fought enemies in Britain, Guy defeating a Danish champion named Colbrand, who seems to be the Angle Colegrin defeated by King Arthur II. Amongst his many feats Guy is accredited with killing a monster Boar, befriending a Lion, then killing a Dragon in Northumberland, and slaying a monstrous Wild Dun Cow at Dunsmore-on-Stretton. All these adventures seem to mirror Tales from the Arthurian Stories of the Mabinogi. The war against the giant Boar named Twrch Trwyth - "the lying pig"- is a central theme of the Culhwch and Olwen Story in the war against the King of the Vandal Mercians -"the lying pig." The friendly Lion threatened by a Dragon is familiar to all Arthurian Romance enthusiasts, and befriends "Sir Owain - Gawaine" in his tale, and all Guy's legendary exploits are similarly traced. Whereas Arthur I is untraceable in conventional history after his battle with Theodosius the Great at Sisica in 388AD, as Guy he is said to have gone to the Holy Land on a pilgrimage. He is then said to have resided quietly in retirement at Guy's Cliffe, to the north of the River Avon in Warwickshire. That Arthur I lived out his days in Britain seems certain and corrupt Roman accounts of suicide can be discounted because Magnus Maximus and his whole family were devout Christians. King List No. 4. from the Harleian MSS 3859.
The Black Book of Carmarthen.
These King Lists were prepared for the wedding of the Prince Owen son of Howell Dda and were therefore compiled around 920AD. Magnus Maximus -Maxim Gulc - CONSTANTINE FAMILY TREE
This is as far as we need to go at this time, and tying in the detailed relationships is no problem in this well recoded royal Dynasty. The reason for Arthur II's claim to Imperial status is easy to understand.
Glastennen in Welsh is "the scarlet oak" and Glastenic is Glastonbury in the Lichfield and Atherston, Arthur's Twyn = Burial Mound area - and near Viroconium (Wroxeter). These are the records concerning the Land Grants made by King Ina who ruled and lived in this same West Midlands area, where he gave substantial territories to Glastenic-Glastonbury around 700AD - some 250 years before the Somerset Glastonbury Abbey was even founded. The Abbey of Glastonbury in Somerset was not founded until 942AD by King Edgar as his mortuary chapel with only 12 monks sworn to poverty. The roof burned down in 1184AD leaving the Monks even more destitute, and so the fake "discovery" of King Arthur in 1191AD, was somewhat fortuitous and necessary. Edgars Abbey Chapel was rediscovered in 1920 by William Bligh Bount, and proved to be a small building, and not a great very ancient Abbey. This discovery led to the dismissal of W. Bligh Bount from his position in charge of the Glastonbury, Somerset ruins. Everything points to the urban area around Viroconium and to the definite identification of this West Midlands area as the location of the famous Glastonbury of Joseph of Arimathea. This is where Joseph journeyed up from his original base in Glamorgan first to Brecon, and then to what is now Warwickshire, where the King Gweirydd -"George"- known as Aviragus to the Romans, gave him land. In return Joseph of Arimathea is traditionally believed to have given Gweirydd a white flag with a red cross upon it. Blackett and Wilson's purpose in resurrecting King Arthur I, son of Magnus and King Arthur II is to trace the ancient British Alphabet over to America in the voyages of 562-573 and 574AD and the proving voyage of the Admiral Gwananon sent by Arthur II, son of Meurig to trace the accidental voyage of Madoc Morfran, son of Meurig, and the subsequent expedition of Arthur II and Madoc, with their brother-in-law Amwn Ddu, son of Einyr Lydaw. This was written by Alan Wlison and Baram Blackett and I posted it for all the new members, especially our Americans. I will post a continuation of King Arthur I, the Black son of Magnus Maximus if anyone wants more information as written by Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett